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united states, just arrived at dobbins air force base outside of atlanta soon to be headed to emery university hospital where doctors are waiting to receive her. and good day. i'm andrea mitchell in washington where we begin with breaking news and expecting a p pentagon briefing this hour about a shooting at kabul. killed a two-star general and seriously wounded at least 15. a man dressed in an afghan military uniform opened fire at a university. the afghan military blames it on what they call a terrorist in an army uniform. let's bring in chief pentagon correspondent jim miklaszewski and colonel jack jacobs. mick, tell us what you know. >> reporter: well, the general and more than a dozen other american soldiers had gone to that defense university for a meeting with afghan officials. there were also some german isaf
officers at the meeting when as you said suddenly a gunman dressed in an afghan military uniform opened fire, sprayed the crowd, killing the u.s. general and at least two others, believed to have been german general or a german officer, rather, and an afghan officer. 15 americans have been wounded. some u.s. officials fear that the american death toll in this incident could rise because of the severity of some of their injuries. all of the americans were quickly air lifted out of that facility and a medical facilities as quickly as possible. and, you know, the tragedy of this is those incidents of green on blue or insider attacks by afghan military had subsided significantly in the last several years as the u.s. military had taken many precautions including the fact that any time the u.s. military was engaged with armed afghan
military in any setting, there would be at least one if not two american soldiers locked and loaded. their finger on the trigger guard just in case. but even with those kinds of precautions, u.s. military officials acknowledge that as long as you're serving side by side with armed afghan military, no american is ever 100% safe, andrea. >> and mick, do we have any idea what kind of weapon was used? >> reporter: it is believed it was probably an ak. that's the weapon of choice or if they don't have any choice that most of the afghan military use. they're an automatic weapon and you can only imagine if everybody's guard was down and they were in this crowd conversing most likely, feeling pretty safe, actually, when out of nowhere there's a burst of gun fire, you can do a heck of a lot of damage in just an instant with an automatic weapon like an ak in a crowd which is
apparently what happened here. >> and colonel jack, you have been involved in training our officer corps at the war college, those who go to afghanistan, what does this mean in terms of the way we train our leaders and just the whole -- our whole approach to afghanistan in these waning days of the war? >> well, our mission over there now is to withdraw and to train the afghans. and so, the -- over time, the majority of the effort will be sliding over to train the afghans. we have got mobile training teams, advisers just about every major training center in afghanistan both to train the enlisted troops and also to train and educate the officers so that mission is not going to -- is not going to get very much smaller until we're completely withdrawn. as a result, there's always the danger, especially with the draw
down in american combat troops, always the danger that incidents like this can happen. i remember when i was an adviser in vietnam in the waning days of the combat there, and there was always a danger that you would have some disgruntled vietnamese soldier, not a plant, not a vietcong wearing a uniform, south vietnamese uniform but a disgruntled soldier and all of whom armed all the time and this is what happened here probably. >> something tragic, indeed. we should point out there are political issues, as well, because the carefully negotiated agreement to try to get the afghan election back on track has been falling apart. so, there are real questions about our mission in afghanistan. thanks so much, jim miklaszewski, thank you, colonel jack jacobs. we appreciate both of you and your reporting today. now to the other top story. the arrival of the second
american of liberia with ebola. missionary nancy writebol arrived a short timing a and going to emery university hospital and still is i should say still going to be taken off that plane, that specially equipped plane, chartered. we don't if she'll be brought off on a stretcher at this point. whether she is able to walk off. a same unit where american dr. kent brantly has been received treatment since arriving over the weekend. kate snow joins me now and dr. shandran is a doctor at albert einstein college of medicine and joins me from new york and one or two other points here. first of all, that we have a suspected patient in jetta and flown and would be the first known case of ebola outside the african continent and british airways today suspended
temporarily to the end of august the commercial flights into both sierra leone and liberia. kate, first to you. the preparations now at emery, officials believe that they are very well equipped to handle this second case. do we know anything about her condition? >> reporter: well, what we know is from liberia, she was doing pretty well. i was told yesterday she was eating again, even asking for a favorite potato soup and coffee. her favorite dish in liberia. there were some good signs and heard she was walking with assistance but i did hear this morning from several sources, it is unlikely, unlikely she'll walk off the ambulance here at emery like we saw the other day with dr. kent brantly. people may have seen that from saturday where he walked out of the ambulance. that was a shock to the medical community and family because normally with ebola, it is quite a decimating disease and so you
might not be able to have that kind of strength. nancy writebol is 59 years old. she's a little bit older than dr. brantly so it's possible that she's just in a little bit more of a weakened state and don't know the details and will know more when she gets here to emery. andrea? >> i wanted to ask you, you're a research doctor, rather, microbiologist, we know something -- do we know details about this serum, the experimental serum both of the patients apparently used and whether or not there's real hope for a vaccine. >> yeah. thank you for having me. so the serum that was given is a mixture of anti-bodies so these are immune proteins that are made in response to ebola virus infection and what's being done is bio technology is used to take these specific antibodies and grow them up to be infused
directly into the patients and the way this type of therapy works is that it attacks the outer shell of the virus binding to it and incapacitates the virus particulars in the blood and prevents it from affecting new cells and buys time for the system to combat the virus so that's basically the mechanism by which a serum like this would work. >> and we know that it was tested on monkeys before. it's quite extraordinary to be used on humans and such a crisis but is this a case where there isn't a whole lot of economic incentives for pharmaceutical companies to develop a vaccine up until now because this was such a rare disease and an orphan drug situation? help me on the state of play on developing a vaccine. >> yeah. there's two different things. vaccine and therapeutics.
the vaccine given ahead of time to protect -- >> inoculate. okay. >> and then the drugs could potentially be given to the people exposed and starting to get sick. what you said earlier about ebola of an orphan disease, i think up to this point, you know, we have seen these isolated outbreaks of ebola and sister virus and they strike without warning. typically if rural areas. there are a few cases. and so, you know, in terms of public health priorities, you know, there are lots of other things that people are worried about that are above that, above ebola on the list and potentially the outbreak shows that it can cause a regional health emergency and i think there's really the incentive and the impetus i think now to push forward and develop both did vaccines and therapeutics. the government is researching and groups like mine and lots of others to really understand and study the virus and come up with targets for developing drugs and
i think we sort of have to, you know, like running a relay race and three quarters of the way in the last leg, the hardest in some ways and most expensive where tough do the testing and animals and people and show that it's safe. show that it works and that's the part where we need buy-in from pharmaceutical companies and what we are seeing with the case of zmapp therapy given to the two doctors is that it's really a public/private collaboration and there are more of these. i'm involved in some of these and others are and i think the public/private partnership hopefully push through and lead to the drugs and vaccines being developed. >> indeed. kate snow, we have not yet seen the ambulance and not yet seen nancy writebol taken off of that plane. but what do we know about what preparations for her arrival? presumably a separate unit from the one that dr. brantly is in and a case at mt. sinai hospital in new york which doctors there
did not think that the symptoms really were ebola but in an excess of caution sending samples to the cdc in atlanta. >> reporter: right. the preparations here at emery university hospital have been extensive and they are going to be in the same unit, the same isolation unit, andrea. not in the same room. two different patient rooms to picture one closed unit with a couple of different rooms. >> sure. >> reporter: that unit itself is highly protected. it has its own air circulation system. they're telling us they're treating any waste, any materials they use on the patients will be put through a process to remove infection and then sent to an incinerator and going to great lengths to make sure that anyone else in this hospital or this neighborhood has absolutely no contact with these patients. in fact, even the families are being kept behind a glass wall and by the way, the two families met for the first time last night. they hadn't met prior. and we're told that the brantly family had been praying for
nancy writebol and the writebol family thanked them for their prayers. to your second question, at mt. sinai in new york city last night, there was a case of a man who came into the emergency room complaining of symptoms similar to the symptoms you would have with ebola. out of an abundance of caution they isolated him almost immediately because he was recently to west africa so he had the symptoms, traveling in west africa. they took no chances. they put him in isolation. they sent some lab work off to the centers for disease control which is right up the street from where i am. we have not yet gotten word about what those tests showed but the new york city public health department last night said it was unlikely that that was the case of ebola. andrea? >> kate snow, thank you so much. dr. chandra, thank you for your experience joining us today. much more ahead here. as we continue to bring you the latest developments on both of these major breaking stories
following this hour. coming up, expecting an update from the pentagon. you see the briefing room there on the deadly attack at a military training academy that killed an arm general and wounded several hours. and we'll continue to follow the journey of american ebola patient nancy writebol as she will be making the way to emery university hospital in atlanta. we'll be right back. looks like we're about to board. mm-hmm. i'm just comparing car insurance rates at progressive.com. is that where they show the other guys' rates, too? mm-hmm. cool. yeah. hi. final boarding call for flight 294. [ bells ring on sign ] [ vehicle beeping ] who's ready for the garlic festival? this guy! bringing our competitors' rates to you -- now, that's progressive.
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first africa business summit because of the ebola crisis in their countries. eight cases confirmed in nigeria setting off alarms of a potential spread and saudi arabia is testing a man in jeddah that traveled from sierra leone. british airways is suspending flights to and from liberia and sierra leone. the u.s. agency for international development is preparing to respond to the growing outbreak. joining me is administrator shah coming to us from the conference. doctor, thank you very much. first, tell us about what you have announced about this special emergency unit that's going to head to africa. >> well, thank you, andrea, for having me. we announced today we'll be sending and establishing a disaster assistance response
team in west africa that will coordinate the efforts of so many technical experts and partners from agencies across the united states government to help provide, organize technical support to the african government that is are really leading the effort to deal with the ebola outbreak in west africa. we take our direction from the centers for disease control. that's really in the lead globally to deal with this crisis and we're confident that african countries will have the capacity and support to effectively handle the outbreak. >> do you have any concerns increased concerns that british airways decided to suspend their flights to the affected countries? >> well, this is a real challenge right now. we know that 1,600 people have been infected. as many as 900 deaths transpired, sadly and authorizing $5 million of support to make sure they have access to personal protective
equipment and that we're supporting these countries in communicating with their general population so they can handle the epidemic a professional manner as we get direction from the cdc. >> i want to ask you about the conference because there's a lot of excitement. $14 billion in business commitments announced by the administration today. this is led by the commerce secretary, of course, and by bloomberg foundation, the philanthropies and the white house. let's talk about this because i was part -- one of the conferences last night, one of the sessions and seeing these american ceos and the excitement they have to compete and invest in africa, six of the world's leading economies, fastest growing economies i should say are in the african continent is really pretty exciting but china got there first. >> well, that point's been made throughout the day today.
africa's the world's fastest growing continents. six of the ten fastest growing economies are there. and the sheer turnout of heads of the largest american financial institutions all saying in unison that the time is now for america to really expand dramatically the economic partnerships with africa and that's what president obama intended when he created this african leader summit. it's a historic event, first time of 50 african heads of state in washington together and the idea today is to build cooperative business partnerships to end hunger and poverty, power the continent. improve infrastructure and come up with new businesses we haven't thought of yet and we think today is a success and it's still early. >> we want to play a bit of our former boss with general electric and his point today about the crisis over the
export/import bank which is a hot issue for some reason on capitol hill. let's watch. >> there's a lot of thinging to be critical about big businesses about an enthere's a lot of things that don't work in government but exporting is not one of them. and the bank isn't one of them and the fact we have to argue for it i think is just wrong. >> this is just another setback in the administration's effort, the bank has never been controversial up until now as far as i know. and here's an agency that helps american businesses compete and be involved in these ventures around the world and in this case in africa. and we've got it held up on capitol hill. >> well, andrea, let me just point to the reality of what this administration's been able to do. we have launched power africa, an initiative that ge are a big part of to help double energy
access in africa. president obama makes a big, new announcement related to it today. power africa will have much more impact on the american economy and creating jobs here if we have a strong and well resourced import/export bank. many of the most important power projects in africa rely on american technologies. caterpillar, earthmoving equipment of the west and ge turbines here, as well. there's no reason to seed ground to china or to european produced products when african companies and leaders are saying here we want a closer business partnership with america and respect our power and agriculture al technology to move 9 million children out of a condition of hunger and poverty because of partnerships with american businesses, with development agencies like usaid
and the president's commitment. >> you have a busy schedule. when's the announcement today of coca-cola? >> well, we're announcing as part of the new alliance for food security and nutrition that we have attracted significant new companies and partnerships for expanding the fight against hunger and poverty in america. 38 new companies are signing on to help invest in african agriculture. 29 of them are from africa and making announcements of $2.2 billion of commitments and i was with an announcement of coca-cola to expand the sourcing from africa by a significant from 12 to $17 billion in the course of the decade. it's just another example of tremendous leadership to help african farmers and producers, have markets, move themselves out of poverty and end the reality that too many children on that continent have gone hungry and mall nourished for too long and doesn't have to be that way. >> doctor, thank you so much from usaid.
thank you for being with us today. >> thank you. and we'll continue to monitor the breaking new this is hour. american ebola patient nancy writebol is now back in the usa. about to make the way to atlanta's emery university hospital. coming up this hour, we expect to hear an update from the pentagon on today's deadly attack in afghanistan. we never thought we'd be farming wind out here. it's not just building jobs here, it's helping our community. siemens location here has just received a major order of wind turbines. it puts a huge smile on my face. cause i'm like, 'this is what we do.' the fact that iowa is leading the way in wind energy, i'm so proud, like, it's just amazing. 3d white brilliancele with the toothpaste and boost.m crest: after brushing, our exclusive boost... ...polishes your smile
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we get more details on the progress of this motorcade leaving dobbins air force base and we believe that nancy writebol on the way to emery university hospital. in politics, major tea party groups across america struck out in multiple attempts to take down long time republican incumbents in the primary season and the last best chance to put a win on the scorecard is in kansas. joining me now for the daily mix, chris cillizza and susan page. susan, first to you. pat roberts, he does have a residency problem. >> he's run the worst possible campaign. not learned the lessons of other senators with a tea party challenger and get back to the state, show you're connected to them. on the other hand, a flawed challenger in mitt wolf.
looks like pat roberts will win. that is ugly spectacle with the politics of kansas. >> chris cillizza, who's mutt wolf? radiologist i presume. he says he's second cousin of president obama? >> it's the mother's side of the family. it's a complicated family tree. a guy that works with me did a legitimate family tree and very convoluted and second cousins to president obama. i mean, i think that's a way to get him some attention. you know, honestly, pat roberts was there to be beaten. susan is right. residency problems. not run the campaign we have seen, for example, lamar alexander with a primary likely to win on thursday. he's not run a good campaign and milton wolf never sort of got going. very, very badly outraised 3 to
1 by roberts and problems with his own campaign. i think if wolf loses and eric cantor has proven i will never say i know anything about primary politics and polling but i think if wolf loses i think they'll say this is a missed tount tie second topic today, both of you, mcdonald trial. susan page, the testimony in this trial, vitaminman, the campaign contributor and supporter, what do we make of this? >> what a soap opera. revelation that mrs. mcdon knell wanted to pitch mitt romney and talked to ann romney and said they might cure her ms. how terrible. the guy that testified about it talked about how horrified he was to watch it going on. the spectacle of the marriage on
display. i guess we have a summer soap opera and this is the mcdon knell trial. >> it's hard to take it seriously but his future is at stake. his legal future. the defense basically my wife did it or made me do it? >> yeah. and andrea, like you said, it is hard because some of the stuff going back and forth here is brutal. they didn't go out on dates. maureen mcdonnell's defense, saying she had a crush on johnny williams and the charges are serio serious. look, talking about 11 i believe charges of corruption, 14 total allegations here. and you have the fascinating dichoto dichotomy. not just johnny williams versus the mcdonnell but maureen and bob and you have this sort of three-part legal back and forth with everybody with their own motives and trying to sell their own story line. it is absolutely remarkable.
i cannot believe a guy that got elected and talked about being vp roughly four years ago is going through this. >> ever any doubt of why he wasn't put on the ticket, the fact that she tried to pitch the romneys on a cure for multiple sclerosis from a vitamin guy, a campaign contributor and bought her the dresses and everything else is unbelievable. thank you, chris and miss kansas, susan. we'll talk to you about what happens to pat roberts. what do americans think of israeli action in gaza? exclusively here coming up next. plus, the latest on today's deadly attack in afghanistan. killing major general in the army. and wounding several others at a military training school outside kabul. moments from now, we are expecting an update from the pentagon. we'll bring it to you live. stay with us right here.
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many were seriously wounded, others received only minor injuries. the assailant was killed and confirm among the casualties was an american general officer who was killed. given that the family notification process is not complete, i will not and cannot release any additional information. we want to respect the notification process and the family's privacy at this time. secretary hagel extends on behalf of the men and women of this department the heartfelt condolences, thoughts and prayers to those affected by the tragedy, most especially the family of the fallen soldier. secretary spoke with morning with general dunford and pledged whatever support he and the department could provide with respect to the investigation. the incident will be jointly investigated by afghan and isaf authorities, it's just now getting under way and let it
proceed without speculating about the circumstances. with that, i'll take your questions. bob? >> you say the assailant believed to be an afghan soldier. can you elaborate at all? a known member of the army? was he -- he was in uniform and was using an issued firearm or -- >> well, as i said, right now, and the investigation is just now getting started, we believe that the assailant was an afghan soldier but, i mean, and the -- i'm caveating it by saying we believe. the investigation just got started. but i have seen no indications, we have no indications he wasn't anything other than that member of the afghan national security forces. >> circumstances under which it happened, was there a -- was there some sort of a large gathering? was it instructional situation or was it a training? >> as i understand it, it was a routine visit to the national
defense -- to the university which is akin to their sort of officers academy but i would point you to isaf for the exact details. i don't know. it was a routine site visit is how i understand it. but again, the circumstances surrounding how it -- >> a visit by the generals you mean? >> no. by the general and other coalition staff members. and as i said, at the outset and maybe i didn't make this clear enough, not all of the casualties are american so there were other coalition members that fell victim to this shooting so as i understand it, it was a coalition, an isaf site visit to the university. i don't have anymore details than that about how long they had been there, what were they looking at? i just don't know. jim? >> thank you, admiral kirby. i'm told this was a vetted soldier and went through a serious vetting process for afghan troops, particularly a facility like this.
does this identify weaknesses in the vetting process and wonder bigger picture, months away from afghan, u.s. handing over security responsibility for afghanistan to afghan forces like this. does this undermine your confidence in their ability to take over that role? >> great question, jim. first, too soon to tell on what it means for the vetting process. again, we believe this individual was a member of the afghan national security forces. we will let the investigation proceed to figure out who it was and before we leap to conclusions on the vetting process. on your second question, i would say -- and general dunford mentioned this in his discussion with the secretary today. the afghan national security forces continue to perform at a very strong level of competence and confidence and warfare capability. they have had a good year securing two national elections.
and stopping or minimizing the impact of countless numbers of attacks throughout the country, even in kabul. so, this is a security force that we believe grows stronger by the week and they are already in the lead in combat missions throughout the country and completely in the lead for military operations by the end of the year. we see no change in that. no degradation of that progress. >> to be fair, this is not the first time you have had green on blue attacks like this one. i just wonder if this undermines the trust that coalition forces, particularly u.s. forces, have in their afghan colleagues in the months remaining before they leave the country. >> i've seen no indication that there's a degradation of trust between coalition members and their afghan counterparts. and i would encourage you to speak to folks over there in afghanistan. i'm not. i'm here in the pentagon. every indication is that the partnering and the cooperation just, you know, it gets better
and better every week. i think, again, that's born in -- that's born out in the performance we have seen out of afghan national security forces. >> admiral, after a spate of these green on blue insider attacks several years ago in afghanistan, the u.s. military instituted several security precautions, several additional security conditions. do you know if any of those precautions were in place during this meeting or was it considered so safe that they didn't feel the necessity to undertake those additional security procedures? >> well, you're right, jim. isaf did institute some measures to help mitigate the threat, but the he na eliminate it. all of this is going to be looked at in the investigation. >> you said not eliminate. why can't you eliminate that
threat? >> i think we have been very honest that the insider threat is probably -- it's a pernicious threat and difficult to come to grips with the scope of it anywhere you are particularly in a place like afghanistan, so -- and afghanistan is still a war zone. so, it's impossible to eliminate completely that threat i think particularly in a place like afghanistan but you can work hard to mitigate it and minimize it. isaf has done that. i would -- as terrible as today is, and it is a -- it's a terrible day, a terrible tragedy, we haven't seen in the course of the last year or so the -- as you described it a spate of these insider threat attacks and i think that's testament to the good work that authorities have done in isaf to
try to mitigate the threat. >> can you give us any details about the incident itself? indoors? meeting the troops? do you have any further details about exactly how this went down? >> i wouldn't go any further than what i went to bob's question as i understand it. it was a site visit to the university by coalition members and again i just don't have the details and i wouldn't want to speculate right now. >> do you know the type of weapon he was using? >> i do not. john? >> was he killed by american troops or afghan troops? >> i just know he was killed in the process of the attack. missy? >> the death of american general officer in context, is this the highest ranking death of an american soldier in afghanistan since the beginning of the war or since a certain period? can you help us con tetextualizt
that way? >> i don't have the whole history of the casualties over 13 years. clearly, it's if not the certainly one of the highest ranking deaths in -- in the war since 9/11. as you probably know, in the attack on the building and on september 11th, 2001, a three-star army general, the head of their personnel branch, was killed in the building. i believe and we can try to do the research on this, but i believe this would be the highest ranking death since then. >> could we try to get clarification of that later? >> yeah. and also point you to army on this, as well. we'll do what we can to try to help you but i don't have that detail right now. yeah, phil? >> admiral, does this incident mean that this department and washington generally need to look at the way forward in afghanistan in terms of the draw down and change the makeup of the troops to be sent there for more force protection or continue to guard against the
insider attacks? >> the investigation is just now getting under way, phil, so i'm not going to speculate about what it may or may not find. i don't see any impact to the current plans to draw down or forces in afghanistan. and to further support the resolute support mission next year. what is contingent upon the ability to execute the mission is getting a bilateral security agreement signed which we still don't have. yeah? >> general officers in the region receiving additional security or movements restricted? >> i point you to isaf for that. no idea. >> was he the highest ranking officer in the room? do you have any reason to believe he was targeted? >> the question presumes it was in a room and i won't talk about the specifics of the -- >> the officer on the site? >> i do not know. i do not know. >> what about the -- sorry -- >> did i miss another part of
the question? >> target or random? >> i don't have that level of detail and i wouldn't speculate at this time. tony? >> perspective, 2012 and general dunford up for isaf nomination, insider attacks the major news story out of the region in terms of -- like 25 to 30 that year. last year, dropped to 13 or 14. >> right. >> according to your 2060 report. can you find out from isaf from january to now roughly how many insider attacks there were for perspective? >> yeah. we'll take it for the record, tony. >> another part of the world, iraq. an op-ed in "the washington post" said that the united states is directly now supporting the kurds with air strikes from iraq against isil and helping with military assistance and munitions. do you have any insight into that? >> i can tell you that the
defense department is -- let me tell you what we are doing. we continue to provide isar coverage over the country. we continue to -- >> and admiral kirby having completed the questions and answers about the tragedy in kabul today, has confirmed that an army general was killed in this green on blue incident. they believe that the asill lant who was killed was a member of the afghan military, according to the initial reports. 15 others coalition members were injured. there were other nationalities involved. we had heard earlier may have been german officers, as well, at that training facility outside kabul. while we await the arrival of nancy writebol at emery university hospital, i want do go to the wilson center where jane harmon the ceo and former congresswoman is standing by. jane, we want to talk to you
about israel if we can and this latest incident that undermines the security of the training of the military. >> we don't know who this guy was. i think there are lessons to be learned here. i don't know why people take ak-47s into the group events and it's tragic that a two-star general has been killed. it's also tragic that an enlisted members have been killed. let's remember that. >> of course. >> i'm not ready to say it's undermined the confidence. we have to see what the handoff looks like. hopefully this election will conclude soon, both candidates who are contesting this election support a status of forces agreement and that will help us leave the country safely and keep in place a residual force that hopefully will make sure that the training we have invested hugely in will generate some capacity in afghanistan. >> and, jane, i want to ask you about gaza and israel.
we have a cease-fire and negotiations under way finally. we have a new poll we're unveiling right now says that americans by 44% to 24% believe that israel is justified in defending its interests that 32% don't have an opinion. at this point, israel has been damaged upon european audiences and seems to have an american support. >> well, i think that's true. certainly has my support. i think israel's right in insisting on demilitarizing the tunnels but i also think that if the cease-fire negotiations are serious, it's interesting to see egypt is stepping up to play a role. egypt and hamas have no relationship but there's an opportunity here. as david inspector genergnacius
this morning for the cease-fire with israel and hopefully to have this sustained quiet that netanyahu is calling for where both sides reconsider the advantages, at least this is my strong view, of a two-state solution. >> thank you so much, jane harmon. thank you for joining us today. we have more now on this stateside arrival of nancy writebol, the second american to arrive from liberia after contracting the deadly ebola virus. that ambulance carrying the 59-year-old missionary of north carolina about to arrive in atlanta. you can see the progression of the ambulance. kate snow is at emery university hospital. kate, they're ready to receive her. and the first steps will, of course, be to see whether she walks off the ambulance as dr. brantly did. >> reporter: right. >> whether she comes off as one would expect on a stretcher after this long journey. >> reporter: yeah. an
andrea, we all really hope that she can walk off but i've been told she is on a stretcher and just down the road. we can see the helicopters overhead right now and probably only a few blocks away from emery university hospital. the security is tight. we are on another side of the building. the helicopter should be able to see where she will enter, the backside of the university hospital here. she'll go into an isolation unit and where dr. brantly already is. they worked together in liberia. probably haven't seen each other in the last week but she'll go to the same unit he is and in separate patient rooms and it should be clear that this is a very highly secure unit to be in. it has its own air system, filtration system. none of the air goes to the other parts of the hospital. a way of destroying waste so that they can clean it, a virus, and then send it to an incinerator and all lab testing in the unit and only people having any access to the patients, andrea, people suited
up, doctors wearing complete hazmat gear and i expect what to see of the paramedics here, as well. the other day i talked to the man that organizes the convoy and plans this and said they'll be geared up and likely two paramedics, one driving and one in the back with nancy writebol. the ambulance is going by me right now. >> you see the sirens and as we just saw from the aerial view, this ambulance has a black star on the roof indicating contagion. that's another symbol of contagion. we see that view. >> reporter: right. >> as the ambulance. approaching where you are. >> reporter: right. and did you notice, andrea, in the shots you took earlier in the hour on the highway, many cars placed around this ambulance to make sure that no other car gets near it and would haven't a car accident. i think they have taken every precaution to make sure that
this woman is completely isolated. even though we know that ebola by the way only spread by real contact with bodily fluids. right? you have to touch someone's sweat or blood or a bodily fluid to catch this disease. it is not caught by casual contact or by being across a room from someone. but still, they're making very sure there are no concerns about the public health here. >> and, kate, as we have been talking the ambulance went down the ramp and going into the ambulance bay at the hospital. and as you smartly pointed out, there were so many cars surrounding the ambulance, just to guard against any mishap. perhaps there was more security today because it's a weekday and more traffic on the highway than seen on saturday. but for whatever reason, it was a very carefully staged operation. the ambulance with the black star indicating contagion, pulling into the ambulance bay
continuing to watch, nancy writebol, the 59-year-old missionary after the long flight on the cargo plane, specially equipped. you have been reporting, kate, for the last few days on the way they equipped this cargo plane so that everyone who had any involvement in her care in the hazmat suit. correct? >> reporter: right. she was on a stretcher inside of a plastic container if you will. sealed so that even on the airplane nobody else would accidentally have contact with her. and then, again, as she gets here, she'll be whisked into the hospital fairly quickly. and then put into this special isolation unit. i should tell you that we know that her condition is improving. over in liberia we were told yesterday she's getting some appetite back. able to order her favorite potato soup. she's walking with assistance we were told but this is a grueling your sni she's had and left last
night about 9:00 p.m. eastern time and now here it is the next morning. it's been more than 12 hours journey and wasn't probably as healthy and dr. brantly going into the experience and you can understand why she might want to be on a stretcher or might have to put her on a stretcher to get her into the hospital. but again, the drug that they have been given which is an experimental medication that you have heard about, she did get two doses of that. one on sunday. it was her latest dose and we expect she'll get a third probably here at emery and that seems to have an indication it's helping the patients and although medically we don't know for sure yet and seems to be their conditions improving as they get that medication. >> kate, we see that she is coming off. we see the stretcher. there are two personnel with hazmat suits with this stretcher which has just come off the back of the ambulance. you are on the other side of the
ambulance. we have a clear view now and she is encased in a hazmat suit strapped into the stretcher. they're not wheeling it yet. no, it is down. they had lifted it off the back of the ambulance and now we have a clear shot that they're wheeling her into the back of the hospital and will be joining dr. brantly. they won't be together as you have been pointing out. think'll be in separate, private rooms in the same iso unit and now going inside the hospital where all care has been taken, you and dr. nancy snyderman talking about how carefully this hospital prepared. i think you said earlier separate air ventilation systems for the unit. kate? >> reporter: right. right. that's right. i would just note, dr. snyderman told me that technically an ebola patient does not need to be encased the way you saw her encased in a hazmat suit. that may be in part for her privacy. these families have asked for
privacy at this point. you can imagine, you know, her son is in there. actually we think both of her sons but i know for sure one of her sons is here and they haven't seen her. jeremy writebol said he wants to tell her i love you and how much he's been praying for her and how he's faithful she's going to be well. this is a woman who's a deeply faithful person. she's been a missionary over in liberia. she jumped into action to help patients over there. to save lives of lie beberialib fell ill herself. her organization says that they feel very deeply about the people of lie brieberia and not sight of the fact that everyone's putting their attention on her and dr. brantly, there's hundreds of people suffering in west africa an she wants to make sure they get attention, as well. perhaps the medicine they have taken experimentally will end up helping those people, as well,
andrea. >> what was so moving earlier, kate, you were reporting that the two families met for the first time and had actually prayed together today. that faith is so much of their mission. we're watching a replay of what we saw a few moments ago which was nancy writebol on a stretcher in a hazmat suit for her own protection, privacy perhaps, with two very well protected emergency medical -- >> reporter: right. those people there i'm fairly confident are the driver and the paramedic who were in the back of the -- one paramedic in the back of the unit. the other was the driver. the driver is a woman. you may have remembered on saturday we got a picture of her. kind of a tight shot of her driving the vehicle. at leasting to note, they have been practicing for this and doing drills on this for years. they know how to handle someone who is contagious. they have handled other cases,
not ebola but other contagious diseases. many times. so this is not something that's brand new to them. this is a team, a professional team, from emery university and grady hospital who have though rily studied communicable diseases and know what they're doing. >> our thanks to kate snow and coverage continues, of course, right here on msnbc. we also know that there have been reports of other incidents, one in jeddah to be confirmed and usaid is sending a special team to liberia. my colleague ronan farrow continues over from here. >> thank you. we have coverage of the second ebola patient arriving in atlanta. that is the same hospital treating the other american dr. kent brantly. just moments ago, this happened. she was wheeled into that hospital on a stretcher. she's a 59-year-old american aid worker who contracted that deadly ebola virus helping to
fight the disease in liberia. she's arriving in atlanta today just now. writebol and brantly both given apparently an experimental drug. never tested before on humans. doctors and associates say that so far she's showing improvement. and official with writebol's aid organizationization sim usa said that monday she was up and walking before leaving africa and felt well enough to order a favorite liberian dish, potato soup. we have no update on her condition today. again, she is arriving right now. there the two missionaries whose condition we're tracking closely. the first from samaritan's purse, dr. kent brantly. he is also said to be improving right now. i want to go right now to dr. david shiner, he looks at the issues and former president obama's physician. tell us what can we expect in